In 1992 my guest Jim Obergefell met the love of his life John Arthur and fell in love with him while living in Cincinnati, Ohio. In the early 90’s the gay community all over America lived in secrecy because in that not too distant past LGBTQ people could be arrested, jailed, and of course fired from their jobs for who they were and who they loved. There were no protections under the law for LGBTQ people to be treated equally but despite the hurdles the community faced there were those who continued to live their lives with those they loved and one of those couples was Jim and John.  Jim Obergefell is the named plaintiff in the Supreme Court case Obergefell v. Hodges that was decided in June 26, 2015 legalizing marriage between same sex couples in the United States and the co-author of the book “Love Wins” The Lovers and Lawyers who Fought the Landmark Case for Marriage Equality. There is still so much instability facing the future of the LGBTQ community as it pertains to legal protections in employment, housing, healthcare, jurisprudence and of course marriage and I am happy to explore all of these subjects and Jim’s book on this show. In addition, Jim and I discuss the future ahead and his current initiative Family Equality www.familyequality.org and his passion for wines that includes his current venture Equality Vines equalityvines.com where a portion of the sale of each bottle of these premium wines goes to support multiple humanitarian initiatives including equality.  Grab a glass of Equality Vines wine and join us for the enlightening conversation or take us along on your drive to work or a walk or run!