The Science of Change

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Behavior change is hard. Actively changing another person's behavior is even harder. But many companies have been able to crack that code. They're the companies who understand that people don't always — or maybe even rarely — act rationally. The Science of Change is a podcast that seeks to demystify how businesses apply the psychology of decision-making. Each episode, host Kristen Berman, behavioral scientist and co-founder of Irrational labs, interviews visionary product or organizational leaders to find out how they’ve leveraged data to learn about both their customers’ and their employees’ behavior — and how they’ve managed to change it. Those insights, along with some of the latest research in their fields, will help us get to the bottom of our core psychologies. So let's dig in and unlock the secrets behind The Science of Change. The Science of Change podcast is presented by SetSail. Act on the moments to lead to a sale. Visit us at https://setsail.co (setsail.co) or on LinkedIn to learn more about the world’s number one revenue execution platform. read less
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How Do Yelp Reviews Shape Our Choices?
31-05-2022
How Do Yelp Reviews Shape Our Choices?
Trying something new is hard at the macro level. Yelp reviews reduce that uncertainty that comes with new things. But how do they help businesses achieve organic and meaningful reviews? In this episode, host Kristen Berman is joined by Akhil Kuduvalli Ramesh, VP of Consumer Product at Yelp. He explains why Yelp prefers quality over quantity when it comes to reviews and how your Yelp review creates community and helps new businesses. They also talk about high-frequency low-risk experience while taking a look at some studies and other companies’ strategies, like Spotify’s approximate nearest neighbor search. Stay tuned and learn the many features that are promoting human connection at Yelp!Jump straight into:(01:17) - Engineering behind a review: Reminders, thank you notes and opportune timing to enhance more reviews.(07:42) - Why do people write reviews? The common denominators the most frequent Yelp contributors share.(13:19) - Promoting human connection: The best hacks to make first reviews flow organically and be longer.(16:57 - Understanding search processes’ verticals for different business categories in Yelp (and how they created the reorder button). (26:15) - The perks of being a responsive business owner (and how Yelp facilitates clever questions to be answered by more than one person).(32:41) - Looking for something wildly different than ice cream: On Yelp’s target diversification and the appearance of new kinds of experiences.Episode resourcesConnect with Akhil through LinkedInYelpThank you for listening to Science of Change podcast. Reach out to Kristen through LinkedIn and visit The Irrational Labs website for more information on behavioral science. This show is presented by SetSail and produced by Kristen Berman and Studio Pod Media. The executive producer is Rachael Roberts. All episodes are written by Kristen Berman and Ying Lin with experts, script editing by Jack viewer. Special thanks to Lydia Trupe for fact checking and citations. Music and editing provided by nodalab.
How Does Asana Make Us More Accountable?
17-05-2022
How Does Asana Make Us More Accountable?
You’ve probably heard of Asana or maybe you already use it in your workplace. In this episode, Paige Costello, Core Product Leader at Asana, joins the show to explain the features that help codify and amplify some of the key components that make work to actually work. We talk about interesting concepts such as deadline visibility, social loafing, long-term planning and authentic acts of recognition. Let's take a look at what work actually is and which are the most important (and sometimes hidden) gears that create productive work environments!Jump straight into:(01:42) - The coordination layer: Asana's role in helping teams plan and achieve their work together.(05:45) - A visual connection: How Asana’s accurate deadline display turns procrastination into motivation.(10:05) - Is social loafing a real thing? Team productivity, accountability systems, being evaluated and why public tasks are so effective to overcome social loafing.(15:28) - Traction, focus and engagement drive: The tools that make it easier to break down big projects into small tasks.(21:41) - A manager’s best friend: Asana’s insights to make long-term planning and goal tracking easier.(25:37) - Setting the norm: Templates, updates and other features that help Asana work for every team structure and user.(31:03) - The power of compliments: Enabling specific and authentic acts of appreciation and the future of collaborative work management.Episode resourcesConnect with Paige Costello through LinkedInAsanaThank you for listening to The Science of Change podcast. Reach out to Kristen through LinkedIn and visit The Irrational Labs website for more information on behavioral science. This show is presented by SetSail (follow on LinkedIn)and produced by Kristen Berman and Studio Pod Media. The executive producer is Rachel Roberts. All episodes are written by Jack Bueher. Music and editing provided by nodalab.
How Does Affirm Get Us to Buy Now Pay Later?
19-04-2022
How Does Affirm Get Us to Buy Now Pay Later?
In the last few years, buy now pay later has become the hottest development in the digital payment space. The flexibility of this type of models can bring many benefits for companies that know how to implement them, but the irrational decisions that can arise should also be part of a company's responsibility. In this episode, our host Kristen Berman talks with Nupur Kantamneni, responsible for Consumer Product, one of three product pillars at Affirm. We delve into the behavioral strategies that provide such a flexible business model for Affirm, as well as mental models and the positive emotions that come with free stuff. Join us and discover how loans inside Affirm are radically different from other credit companies!Jump straight into:(01:09) - Exploring how Affirm is helping users to understand the way that carts, payment methods and terms work.(07:46) - The compromise effect: The truth about comparison, decisions to save money and picking the middle options.(11:32) - Establishing mental models: The science behind the successful onboarding experiences within Affirm’s savings accounts.(15:58) - Positive emotions that come with free stuff: Why the appeal of zero interest with full transparency and no hidden cost is simply irresistible.(18:48) - Affirm two ways to make revenue: Does the ‘buy now pay later’ model encourage people to spend more?(24:13) - The challenge to set up our own payments and the alignment of incentives that lets Affirm stand out.(29:33) The opportunity to move my payment date: What are Affirm's flexibility offers that other lenders do not provide?(35:06) Virtual debit cards and the types of consumer products that Affirm is trying to offer to users and why some work and others don’t.(39:24) - Choosing priorities and Affirm’s responsibility to improve the life of its users.Episode resourcesAffirmPredictably Irrational by Dan ArielyNupur Kantamneni LinkedinThank you for listening to The Science of Change podcast. Reach out to Kristen through LinkedIn and visit The Irrational Labs website for more information on behavioral science. This show is presented by SetSail (follow on LinkedIn) and produced by Kristen Berman and Studio Pod Media. The executive producer is Rachael Roberts. All episodes are written by Kristen Berman and Ying Lin with experts, and script editing by Jack viewer. Special thanks to Lydia Trupe for fact-checking and citations. Music and editing provided by nodalab.
How Does Match Make Dating Easier?
05-04-2022
How Does Match Make Dating Easier?
What are the most common mistakes people make looking for love online - and how do apps try to solve them? In this episode, host Kristen Berman talks with Jin Chua and Matt Gray, a pair of product leaders working at Match, one of the largest dating platforms in the US. They both share fundamental product design decisions to increase engagement between users, as well as the company’s philosophy on attraction and the hard work from their team of dating experts giving super useful insight. Listen and discover the science behind opening the conversation by just being yourself!Jump straight into:(01:09) - Profile Engineering: How does Match’s team of dating experts know the type of information that increases feelings of connection between strangers?(07:57) - Getting Started: The platform’s onboarding process and the need for interaction to achieve a sense of compatibility.(16:37) - Overcoming the ‘shopping mindset': The most common mistakes that people make when looking for a match.(22:23) - The ‘Ghostbuster’ feature: Fundamental product design decisions to increase engagement with messaging and gender differences in the dating world.(28:30) - The 37% rules, opening line alternatives, and features that make it easier to decide if it’s better to keep meeting new people or settle down.(34:28) - Addressing the adoption rate of video calls inside the app and how dating apps will work in the future.Episode resourcesMatchFollow Jin Chua on LinkedInFollow Matt Gray on LinkedInThank you for listening to The Science of Change. Reach out to Kristen through LinkedIn and visit The Irrational Labs website for more information on behavioral science. This show is presented by SetSail (follow on LinkedIn) and produced by Irrational Labs and Studio Pod Media. Our executive producer is Rachael Roberts, all episodes are written by Kristen Berman and Ying Lin with expert script editing by Jack Buehrer. Special thanks Lydia Trupe for fact checking and citations.
How Did Lyft Change The Way We Ride?
22-03-2022
How Did Lyft Change The Way We Ride?
Let’s take a ride into some of the behavioral principles that made Lyft a trustworthy transportation solution for millions. In this episode, host Kristen Berman is joined by the almighty Kira Wampler. Kira has had a wildly incredible career launching and growing dozens of products. We talk about her time at Lyft: diving into the brand’s core philosophy of “treating better” and how rating systems and incentives took Lyft into a more human approach. We also discuss her current efforts at Redesign Health, where she's trying to drive medical adherence and design chronic care. Plus, Kira shares the process of helping caregivers’ jobs with Jasper, a smart planner for cancer care. Jump straight into:(01:09) - “We treat you better”: Kira's work approach during her first days working at Lyft and why positive interactions are actually contagious. (05:03) - The Undercover Lyft Program: A successful content experiment that got Lyft on the world's radar.(12:24) - The incentives that worked (and the ones that didn’t): On the Lyft Mentor Program and how it consolidated trust among new drivers.(26:04) - Energizing Lyft users: Implementing a tipping system for drivers and ambiguity aversion.(32:39) - A peer-to-peer ride sharing: The complexity of Lyft’s choice architecture when the app was launched.(36:15) - Redesign Health: How Kira is taking her expertise to fund the future of the healthcare sector with companies like Jasper.(43:20) - How is Jasper working to help people to take their medication regularly? Episode resourcesConnect with Kira through LinkedInRedesign HealthThank you for listening to The Science of Change. Reach out to Kristen through LinkedIn and visit The Irrational Labs website for more information on behavioral science. This show is presented by SetSail (follow on LinkedIn) and produced by Kristen Berman and Studio Pod Media. The executive producer is Rachael Roberts. All episodes are written by Kristen Berman and Ying Lin with experts, script editing by Jack viewer. Special thanks to Lydia Trupe for fact checking and citations. Music and editing provided by nodalab.
How Does SetSail Drive Sales Productivity?
08-03-2022
How Does SetSail Drive Sales Productivity?
Bert Lui is Co-founder & CPO at SetSail, an AI-powered sales tracking, motivation, and empowerment solution. Not only have they changed the classic incentive system within sales organizations, they figured out how to drive the right behaviors within that incentive system in sales. We deep dive on the trade-offs between extrinsic and intrinsic motivations, how being charismatic affects your sales, the thin line between compliments and gratitude and the pros and cons of quotas. So let's get ready to -wait for it- Set sail on this super fascinating episode of The Science Of Change!Jump straight into:(01:12) - Motivation to sell more and better: How SetSail makes it easier for sales reps to prioritize deals through goal visibility. (06:01) - Intrinsic vs extrinsic motivation: On charisma and behavioral indicators that are essential to predict a closing deal.(13:03) - The pros and cons of leaderboards:  A practical example of what a weekly contest and prizes look like for sales reps inside SetSail.(20:59) - Playing to win: How does the SetSail reward model motivate middle and low ranked (and recent winners) sales reps?(25:16) - Don’t overthink it: Psychological tips to reduce the fear of rejection, sales quotas and the goal to experiment on compensation size.(29:10) - Real-time feedback: What does Bert think the future of sales will look like? Episode resourcesConnect with Bert through LinkedIn SetSailThank you for listening to The Science of Change. Reach out to Kristen through LinkedIn and visit The Irrational Labs website for more information on behavioral science. This show is presented by SetSail (follow on LinkedIn) and produced by Kristen Berman and Studio Pod Media. The executive producer is Rachael Roberts. All episodes are written by Kristen Berman and Ying Lin with experts, script editing by Jack viewer. Special thanks to Lydia Trupe for fact checking and citations. Music and editing provided by nodalab.
How Does Airbnb Disrupt with Design?
01-03-2022
How Does Airbnb Disrupt with Design?
Letting a person into your home involves a careful evaluation process, but with the right behavioral principles, it can become a task that you can easily perform from your smartphone. In this episode, the talented Product Leader Jiaona Zhang shares the most significant lessons learned while being part of the Product Development team in Airbnb, such as the importance of progress trackers, real time feedback and host measurement beyond the guest reviews. Listen and learn how to build experiences that delight and bring the best out of each user!Jump straight into:(01:10) - Today’s guest Jiaona Zhang introduction.(02:30) - Consider using progress trackers: Insights from the onboarding flow design for hosts at Airbnb.(09:03) - Trying to hit the mark: The science that makes uploading photos to Airbnb a less daunting experience.(10:59) - Rapid and relevant feedback: How Airbnb achieves small incremental changes in hosts' behavior and deals with bad experiences.(17:00) - Enabling more honest reviews: The secret sauce behind the rating system development in Airbnb.(23:07) - Measurement beyond the ratings: How response time impacts the way in which the app measures each host (and how that measurement improves the host behavior).(27:47) - Carrots and sticks: The value of public recognition and enhancing the communication between guests and hosts.(32:36) - Micro learnings from setting new norms: The link between interaction and comfort (and providing guests the choice to interact).(35:38) - Everyone wants to be delighted: Lessons from Jiaona’s early gaming experience that have impacted her PM skills.(40:11) - A spirit of optimization: What change has Airbnb established over the last 10 years?Episode resourcesConnect with JZ through LinkedIn and TwitterThank you for listening to The Science of Change. Reach out to Kristen through LinkedIn and visit The Irrational Labs website for more information on behavioral science. This show is presented by SetSail (follow on LinkedIn) and produced by Irrational Labs and Studio Pod Media. Our executive producer is Rachael Roberts, all episodes are written by Kristen Berman and Ying Lin with expert script editing by Jack Buehrer. Special thanks Lydia Trupe for fact checking and citations.
How Does Netflix Get Us To Binge Watch?
22-02-2022
How Does Netflix Get Us To Binge Watch?
It’s well known that Netflix has made history by revolutionizing the way we consume and interact with TV series and movies. This process has required considerable experimentation and result testing, leading to the invention of a past time we now know and love: binge-watching. In this episode, Gibson Biddle, one of the leaders who established the fundamentals for Netflix success joins the show to have an insightful conversation from what predicts our movie preferences to conversion rates of free trials. We also get into a light chat on the ethics of autoplay and deep dive into the theory of revealed preferences. Ready for some Netflix and chill with Gibson and host Kristen Berman? Click the play button and enjoy this new episode of The Science of Change!Jump straight into:(01:10) - Introducing Gibson Biddle: A product leader who helped pave the way to success at Netflix.(02:46) - Early test results focused on retention improvement: Why waiting and anticipating may be the key to maximizing happiness from an experience.(09:45) - Non-intuitive preferences, enjoyment, and prediction errors: Is movie rating actually helping Netflix improve retention?(15:23) - Past behavior makes future choices: The essential data behind movie taste prediction.(17:33) - Revealed preferences and the effects of highlighting movies and shows: How much of my taste is determined by the algorithm?(23:43) - The radical binge-watch invention: A conscious perspective on the efficiency of episodic TV formats.(27:42) - Rapid-fire questions: Adapting the algorithm, the value of new members, free trial reminders, and Gibson’s career on A/B testing for consumer behavior research.(37:07) - Positive actions payback: Explaining reciprocity principles and quitting brand benefits to grow trust in consumers.(39:49) - The balancing act between discipline and chaos: Gibson’s career advice on constant experimentation. Episode resourcesConnect with Gibson through Twitter and LinkedInGibson Biddle: Product Leadership & StrategyThank you for listening to The Science of Change. Reach out to Kristen through LinkedIn and visit The Irrational Labs website for more information on behavioral science. This show is presented by SetSail (follow on LinkedIn) and produced by Kristen Berman and Studio Pod Media. The executive producer is Rachael Roberts. All episodes are written by Jack Bueher. Music and editing provided by nodalab.
How Is PFF Changing the Game of Football?
16-11-2021
How Is PFF Changing the Game of Football?
Who said numbers ain’t fun? When it comes to football and sports in general, many fans try to develop a new way to connect with the game through analytics and predictions based on stats. Data research has become so important that it now determines how teams make decisions and how they operate as a whole, defining what their strategy is and even becoming the key to winning a championship. In this episode, host Kristen Berman talks with Eric Eager, VP of Research and Development at Pro Football Focus to discover the many ways in which they're changing the game of football with behavior science. Jump straight into:(01:27) - Get to know PFF: A football data collection and analysis firm for every single player in every single game that offers an entertainment platform.(08:39) - Trust in the numbers: On math-based playbook strategies versus intuition, risk aversion, and omission bias.(17:15) - Behavior and decisions made under pressure: What’s behind the mistakes of a quarterback and a coach?(24:04) - How did the analytics revolution in sports start plus why it works so differently in football.(28:01) - Exploring the many ways data has changed football teams’ draft and trade decisions and how that impacts their money cap.(34:58) - Drawing up trick plays meant to deceive the other team and how that applies to markets and real-life decisions.(38:37) - Home team advantage relevance: Discussing the fans’ role when it comes to predictions.(41:31) - What’s going to change for football in the future? Determined positions and the use of algorithms.Episode resourcesConnect with Eric through LinkedInPFFThank you for listening to The Science of Change. Reach out to Kristen through LinkedIn and visit The Irrational Labs website for more information on behavioral science. This show is presented by SetSail (follow on LinkedIn) and produced by Kristen Berman and Studio Pod Media. The executive producer is Rachel Roberts. All episodes are written by Jack Bueher. Music and editing provided by nodalab.
How Does LinkedIn Get You a Job?
09-11-2021
How Does LinkedIn Get You a Job?
What is the perfect job for you? In a world with thousands of companies and millions of job seekers, what’s the most efficient way of finding your dream job? In this episode of The Science of Change, our host Kristen Berman talks to Ada Yu, Director of Product Management at LinkedIn, to understand how this platform helps people and companies find the perfect match while mitigating bias, helping seekers apply for the right openings, and making the hiring processes much easier for everyone. Job sites are marketplaces that are evolving, what might have worked yesterday to help you stand out may not do the trick next year. Jump into this conversation and learn from Ada the state-of-the-art strategies for hiring and what the difficult task of applying for a job and signing a contract will look like in the near future. Jump straight into:(00:52) - Getting from search to hire: How LinkedIn helps job seekers and companies find the perfect match with present bias and stopping cues.(08:32) - Diversity, inclusion and equity: How LinkedIn nudges diverse applicants and recruiters towards job equity. (13:51) - “Open for work” & “Easy Apply”: LinkedIn’s response to the massive layout that hit during the COVID19 pandemic.  (17:45) - Cognitive overload and verified skills: Sorting applicants and job openings to showcase them in a digestible and truthful way.(24:51) - Applying, stretching and handling rejection: LinkedIn’s strategies to increase your chance of getting a job that matches your skills. (29:46) - Reshaping the workforce: Some changes we have seen in the professional world in the last years of online recruitment.  (34:14) - Dip a toe and step out!: Empowering seekers to identify companies committed to diversity and reaching out to new networks.(44:07) - The future of the job market: What is market signaling and what it’s going to take to stand out in the future. Episode resourcesAdditional reading and citations. Connect with Ada through LinkedInLinkedInThank you for listening to The Science of Change. Reach out to Kristen through LinkedIn and visit The Irrational Labs website for more information on behavioral science. This show is presented by SetSail (follow on LinkedIn) and produced by Kristen Berman and Studio Pod Media. The executive producer is Rachel Roberts. All episodes are written by Jack Bueher. Music and editing provided by nodalab.
How Does WW Help Us Lose Weight?
02-11-2021
How Does WW Help Us Lose Weight?
Americans have a complicated relationship with diets, and obesity is a global epidemic rapidly becoming the single most preventable cause of costly chronic diseases. To talk about the difficulties of weight loss and how to overcome them, our host Kristen Berman talks to Julie O’Brien, behavioral scientist and former head of Applied Behavioral Science at WW. There are a ton of diets and weight loss programs out there, so does Weight Watchers actually work? What strategies have they developed to track new habits and break old ones? Tune in and learn Weight Watchers tactics to encourage people to eat better and stay motivated in the very difficult path of losing weight. Jump straight into:(00:50) - How Weight Watchers fights Americans’ complicated relationship with diets: The best way to introduce new habits and break existing ones. (05:17) - Thinking about balance, moderation, and expectations: How to teach people awareness and build an identity around healthy habits. (08:51) - Micro-habit changes and making-one time decisions: What triggers people to join WW and how do they keep motivation? (15:52) - Some factors that make people stay longer on a diet: The highs and lows, and the challenge of tracking the path of weight loss.(21:11) - Set goals successfully and take action!: Figuring out your barriers and making a plan to overcome them.(24:07) - How does the WW point system work?: A simpler way to interpret a nutrition label to help you eat better. Episode resourcesAdditional reading and citations Connect with Julie through LinkedInWWThank you for listening to The Science of Change. Reach out to Kristen through LinkedIn and visit The Irrational Labs website for more information on behavioral science. This show is presented by SetSail (follow on LinkedIn) and produced by Kristen Berman and Studio Pod Media. The executive producer is Rachael Roberts. All episodes are written by Jack Bueher. Music and editing provided by nodalab.
Can Credit Karma Help Us Manage Our Money?
26-10-2021
Can Credit Karma Help Us Manage Our Money?
Behavior Change is hard, but if there is an area even harder to master it’s personal finances. Things like saving and building a credit score are far from our favorite activities. In this episode of The Science of Change, our host Kristen Berman talks to Product Manager and the Growth Lead for Credit Karma Money, Kyle Thibaut. Kyle and Kristen talk about getting people to save and spend, habit formation, removing friction, and overall changing people’s relationship with money; all leading to Credit Karma’s ultimate goal: automate our finances for us. Hop in and learn about this company’s behavioral science and its expertise in defaulting people into good financial behavior.Jump straight into:(01:10) - How much do you have in your emergency fund?: Credit Karma’s start as a savings account service.(10:51) - Instant Karma!: Getting people to spend money and sign up for their service with prize-linked spending. (16:49) - Sorting old obstacles for debit card users: Removing friction, setting new users up quickly, and adding digital options to the user experience.(23:13) - How paternalistic should an app be?: Helping people save money and have a great credit score.(27:36) - Multi-step flows vs. single page forms: What works better for Credit Karma data collection.(30:56) - What is your job?: How ranking by popularity can decrease time and energy spent making choices. (35:03) - What’s next for Credit Karma?: The future of money, FinTechs, and how to make financial products for today and tomorrow. Episode resourcesAdditional reading and citationsConnect with Kyle through TwitterCredit Karma Thank you for listening to The Science of Change. Reach out to Kristen through LinkedIn and visit The Irrational Labs website for more information on behavioral science. This show is presented by SetSail (follow on LinkedIn) and produced by Kristen Berman and Studio Pod Media. The executive producer is Rachael Roberts. All episodes are written by Jack Bueher. Music and editing provided by nodalab.
How Does Sleepio Put Us To Sleep?
19-10-2021
How Does Sleepio Put Us To Sleep?
In this episode of Science of Change, our host Kristen Berman talks to one of the sharpest applied behavioral scientists out there and the Chief Product Officer at Big Health, Kelvin Kwong. The popular sleep app Sleepio and the anxiety therapeutic app Daylight are some of Big Health’s products in the rising market of health apps. How have they managed to join behavioral science and clinical psychology methods into an online service? Kelvin and Kristen go deep on the science, the methods, and the effects that constitute Big Health’s success; from getting people to learn new strategies to assessing their improvement and establishing commitment. Join this conversation and learn about the science behind your anxiety or sleep assistance mobile app. Jump straight into:01:12 - Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and some of its counterintuitive but very efficient techniques: How sleep restriction works as a therapy for insomnia. 08:13 - Precommitment and dealing with failure: How Sleepio knows about your readiness to change and makes an assessment of your level of commitment. 11:51 - The Hurricane Effect and the optimism bias: What is the perfect moment to introduce people to useful techniques? Before or after a crisis?16:00 - Big Health’s focus on getting you better: Retention, follow-through, and getting users successfully to remission.  21:20 - What are the metrics that assess well-being?: How Big Health tailors your program and assesses your outcomes through a highly precise clinical survey. 24:27 - Behavioral science rapid-fire questions: On failing experiments, the use of scores, and why we often rationalize symptoms of mental illness. 28:31 - Combining clinical experience with behavioral science expertise: Is it possible to build a real “therapeutic alliance” through an app?30:33 - The importance of uniqueness in psychology and the Barnum Effect: How Big Health understands your drivers and personalizes your experience using technology.33:46 - On the future of digital mental health: Making the apps more efficient and intelligent based on people’s digital behavior. Episode resourcesAdditional reading and citationsConnect with Kelvin through LinkedInBig HealthThank you for listening to The Science of Change. Reach out to Kristen through LinkedIn and visit The Irrational Labs website for more information on behavioral science. This show is presented by SetSail (follow on LinkedIn) and produced by Kristen Berman and Studio Pod Media. The executive producer is Rachael Roberts. All episodes are written by Jack Bueher. Music and editing provided by
How Does Duolingo Get Us To Learn a Language?
12-10-2021
How Does Duolingo Get Us To Learn a Language?
In this second episode of The Science of Change, our host Kristen Berman dives into one of the most successful apps for language learning: Duolingo. Kristen sits with Duolingo’s Head of Product Management Cem Kansu to talk about the ways this amazing app keeps people engaged and learning. From their daily streaks and batches, all the way to the length and difficulty of each exercise, Kristen and Cem unpack the behavioral science behind Duolingo App. Listen now and learn from the challenges, Cem and his team have managed to successfully solve in their commitment to education. Have you reached your daily goal?Jump straight into:(01:09) - How Duolingo keeps its users motivated: Reducing barriers and keeping streaks without losing the focus on learning.(05:11) - The sweet spot for creating a daily habit: How Duolingo uses freezes and repairs to keep users engaged in a gamified language-learning method. (14:59) - Extrinsic vs. Intrinsic motivation: Why Duolingo asks you how much you want to practice every day. (19:54) - AB Testing: The best tactics to get users to upgrade their subscription and try their Duolingo Plus free week. (24:57) - Running out of lives?: How Duolingo makes you practice active learning by tracking your errors and making each answer count.(30:31) - The theory of learning: Levels, skills, and how to get people to dive into a new level of difficulty.(41:56) - Measuring for today and tomorrow: How Duolingo measures learning and what will be the future of learning a language on mobile.  Episode resourcesAdditional reading, resources and literature review on language learninng Connect with Cem through LinkedInDuolingoThank you for listening to The Science of Change. Reach out to Kristen through LinkedIn and visit The Irrational Labs website for more information on behavioral science. This show is presented by SetSail (follow on LinkedIn) and produced by Kristen Berman and Studio Pod Media. The executive producer is Rachael Roberts. All episodes are written by Jack Bueher. Music and editing provided by nodalab.
How Is Peloton So Good at Getting Us To Exercise?
05-10-2021
How Is Peloton So Good at Getting Us To Exercise?
Welcome to The Science of Change podcast! In this first episode, our host Kristen Berman kicks it off with a case study on an enormously successful company: Peloton. Kristen sits with David Packles, Senior Director of Product Management at Peloton Interactive, to unpack the behavioral tactics used by this game-changing home fitness enterprise. From the way they’ve crafted workouts to their engagement strategies such as leaderboards and streaks, Peloton’s strategies look like a behavior science textbook. Join this conversation and peek inside the secrets behind Peloton.  Jump straight into:(01:09) - How Peloton has completely changed the home fitness game.(02:44) - Make it easier and shorter!: How Peloton figured out the perfect way to get the foot in the door.(07:07) - Building accountability and commitment: The story behind Peloton’s customized social experience, plus“Here Now” and their coordinated start time features.(16:10) - Daily and weekly streaks: The pros and cons of using tracking motivation techniques and nudges. (20:40) - Implementation intention: How to capture the attention of different people through challenges, entertainment, and social accountability.(23:51) - Do leaderboards really work?: Competition, presence, and simplifying the levels of success for users.(28:40) - Consistency vs. routine: The best way to create a working out habit.(35:32) - Explore and exploit: The importance of onboarding and letting people try different experiences and then settle into a habit.(38:13) - Quickfire questions on Peloton: Surprises, news, learnings, tips, and other words of wisdom from David.Episode resourcesAdditional reading, resources and literature review on exercise & habits Connect with David through LinkedInPelotonThank you for listening to The Science of Change. Reach out to Kristen through LinkedIn and visit The Irrational Labs website for more information on behavioral science. This show is presented by SetSail (follow on LinkedIn) and produced by Kristen Berman and Studio Pod Media. The executive producer is Rachael Roberts. All episodes are written by Jack Bueher. Music and editing provided by nodalab.