Jim Zirin revisits his 2018 interview with super journalist and gifted writer Ken Auletta, recorded on March 12, 2018. In 1978, Ken profiled for Esquire the pugnacious attorney Roy Cohn whom he called the "personification of evil." Cohn died in 1986 discredited and disbarred. Donald Trump was a Cohn client and close friend. He called Cohn his mentor. Ken Auletta tells Jim some of the dirty tricks Trump learned at the feet of the master of the smear.