A few months ago, Amber met Shelby and the two began talking about what life is like through a non-binary lens. Amber was so moved by her story that she invited Shelby to join her on The Tote + Pears Podcast. Listen in as the two continue their conversation about life through a non-binary lens.

Produced by: Kai-Saun Anderson

Music by: Podington Bear - Colocate & Rope Swing