When we talk about women, we often make the assumption that they are mothers or will become mothers. But one in five women in the US don’t have children — didn't want them, never got married, had fertility issues, or any number of other reasons.

On Episode 5, Meghan Daum, award-winning writer, columnist, and editor of the New York Times Bestseller, Selfish, Shallow & Self-Absorbed: Sixteen Writers on the Decision Not To Have Kids joins me to discuss her journey and the value of understanding non-mothers.

Produced by: Kai-Saun Anderson
Music by: Podington Bear