What’s good people! Today we have long time friend friend Jelly Roll. He explains how he got Little Ron, what lead him to his biggest song ever “Save Me”, and why Taylor Swift is the Michael Jackson of country. INDULGE! 00:00 Flagrant nearly ended Jelly Roll + “Open Er’ up” 04:49 Publicist quit after 72 hours 07:34 Jelly Roll = C0v1d’s dream + Mask Politics 08:34 Trajectory’s been insane + dealing with success 12:36 Jelly Roll’s criminal past 17:49 Trying to buy childhood home 18:55 Mom was special but troubled + power of music 20:43 Importance of the Rose 23:18 “Save Me” 32:25 Our favourite country singer = Lainey Wilson 35:18 Moment it took off 36:49 Success exposes you to yourself 37:56 Chase the cool not money 39:48 Bunnie Xo is a G + meeting for 1st time 50:35 Marrying Bunnie brought BENEFITS 55:52 Be fully open and honest about everything 59:11 Women know what they’re doing + fugged up credit 01:01:19 Taking everything seriously 01:06:27 Lil Ron adoption + lil people MEAT 01:16:56 Hard to fire people + Bunnie has her own bus 01:18:52 Scary Larry 01:21:25 Letting go creatively, insane venues & production 01:24:40 Taylor Swift is genuinely brilliant 01:31:46 Curating a Churchlike experience 01:33:58 Real connection with fans 01:37:22 Being lucky + dreaming BIG 01:40:51 Dreaming unrealistically 01:45:01 Dream collaborations + That Mexican OT 01:49:31 The Weeknd & maintaining mystery 01:53:25 Travis Scott + Lil Yachty are elite 01:57:37 Shrooms to create + constantly uncomfortable 02:00:55 Feeling like you’ve said everything 02:04:54 Time to decompress properly + cycle writing 02:09:41 Jelly Roll able to vocalise what we feel 02:10:14 Genius of Willie Nelson + creating authentically 02:14:05 Being rich makes you political 02:16:33 Jelly’s relationship with God & Church 02:22:16 The Church will die by weaponising Jesus 02:26:49 The feeling that DMX created 02:28:58 Abusing power + bringing people to God 02:34:47 All boats are floating 02:35:53 RAPID CITY BUY DEM TICKETS