Katherine Gutierrez finally we got to record this episode and I loved having her. From the beginning I loved her poems and her podcast chat with kat is my personal favorite. So go & follow her: @-chatwithkat https://instagram.com/katherineee.g?utm_medium=copy_link follow my podcast:@alltimechatter @sudeshnasaha_ I'm always up for a part 2 so let me know what topics you wanna hear kat & me talk about. Her book: https://www.amazon.com/Scars-That-Never-Heal-through/dp/B0948LNQ61 Follow my podcast:https://instagram.com/alltimechatter?utm_medium=copy_link Donate for my podcast:https://www.paypal.me/sudeshnasaha27 Follow on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0IVQ0d6CTZxfArskizUu1r?si=Tv_dAQgSTe2ZadivPJ4tEQ&utm_source=copy-link&dl_branch=1